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Wednesday, February 01, 2006
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For those who are curious or obsessed with what's going on between Denmark and the Arab World well here is a link that a friend sent me! Honestly I didn't read through it but I thought people might want to!

Danish Issue with Islam
Posted by The Stallion @ 12:49 PM  
20 Comments:
  • At February 01, 2006 1:44 PM, Blogger samboose said…

    Well I'm all for the ban. If they won't respect us then we have to force it on them.

    But the question I have is I understand you shouldn't get new products. But all the Jam3iyat did they throw these items away? or did they return it and ask for a refund? Because if they threw them away then I think that's bad too, people don't have food to eat and we throw edibles? The cause is great but the means??? that is the question...

     
  • At February 01, 2006 2:00 PM, Blogger The Stallion said…

    Samboose: Knowing Kuwait and Kuwaitis they most liekely threw the products away! I would have given the products away to those in need like the people we helped out during Christmas!

     
  • At February 01, 2006 2:14 PM, Blogger Kthekuwaiti said…

    I think its retarded; I don't think B&O/Lego have anything to do with it. The newspaper printed the article ... if you didnt like it, ban the newspaper. If the newspaper doesnt care if you banned, then that has to tell you something about its customer base. This is another attempt at trying to show Europe the power of the Arabs, banning cheese .. great.

    There are a million others things a person can pursue in the name of Islam, to strengthen its ties with the rest of the world .. banning lurpak is not one of them.

     
  • At February 01, 2006 3:10 PM, Blogger The Stallion said…

    K The Kuwaiti: Soo true!

     
  • At February 01, 2006 4:34 PM, Blogger iDip said…

    Kuwaitis usually say:
    قطع الاعناق ولا قطع الارزاق

    now I think they're doing both.

    1-boycotting danish products.
    (the Italian Kinder & the Kuwaiti KDD are victims too)

    2- MP Faisal Al-Mislim urged Kuwaitis (and muslims) to obtain copies of Ibn Taymiya's book
    الصارم المسلول على شاتم الرسول
    and according to this book muslims (governments or people) should kill who draw the caricatures.

    so sad.

    Haven't they heard of something called LAW, go to the courts and sue the newspaper!!

    maybe they're not used to it.

     
  • At February 01, 2006 6:27 PM, Blogger The Stallion said…

    iDip: Kuwaitis don't trust anything called LAW! Why? A few reasons:

    1) Court Houses are filled with dirty judges and money can buy you the ruling.

    2) Takes too long for something to go through Arab courts!

    3) Arabs ALWAYS agree to not agree on anthing! (Oxymoron huh?!!?)

    I don't think I'm going to continues... I don't want it to become too much of a debate!

    The basis of the post was to point out the site!

     
  • At February 02, 2006 8:49 AM, Blogger McArabian said…

    I'm with KtheKuwaiti on this one. Ban the paper, not the Danish products - the paper doesn't speak for all the Danes in Denmark.

     
  • At February 02, 2006 10:15 AM, Blogger The Stallion said…

    McArabian:I agree with you!

     
  • At February 02, 2006 11:45 AM, Anonymous Black Widow said…

    Look I don't agree with you all. I agree with banning Danish products, why? The government refused to stop these people so what can we do to show them we're not happy? Refusing to buy their products, if the government TRIED to help this wouldn't have happened.

     
  • At February 02, 2006 11:52 AM, Blogger The Stallion said…

    Black Widow: I understand what you are saying but not all the countries are like Kuwait! Not all countries censor thier papers! They have freedom of speech and expression!

     
  • At February 02, 2006 4:31 PM, Blogger Kthekuwaiti said…

    Black Widow:

    Their government does not control and censor free speech like the government s in the middle east. They have no control over what their newspapers choose or choose not to print.


    Danish Prime Minister Anders Fogh Rasmussen has repeatedly stated that the matter is a free speech issue, and something that is beyond his powers to influence.

    "A Danish government cannot say 'sorry' for a Danish newspaper," Rasmussen said on Monday.



    People are banning danish products because the government won't censor the newspapers! That is just ridiculous!

    The only people benefiting from the ban are the danish newspaper because they are becoming semi-famous and attracting more readers.

    The Danish companies have no control over the matters, they are losing valuable business. And the Arab distributers are left with warehouses full of expired goods.

    If Lego/B&O/Lurpak/etc. have an issue with Islam, or are disrespectful towards it .. then you have every right to boycott their products.

    What is even worse is that people are under the assumption that is actually benefiting the Arab world by showing Europe/World that we have a voice. The voice that can't help resolve the political issues in the middle east or seperate a religion from political agenda .. But hey! we can stop playing with your toys and cut out your dairy products!

    The whole world isnt awwing at our power, they are laughing at us.

     
  • At February 02, 2006 5:13 PM, Blogger The Stallion said…

    K The Kuwaiti: I agree with you but go easy on Black Widow! She does have a point and she's putting it on the table! The same you did! ;o)

     
  • At February 02, 2006 5:19 PM, Blogger Kthekuwaiti said…

    I am passionate about my lego and lurpak. ;)

     
  • At February 02, 2006 5:31 PM, Blogger The Stallion said…

    K The Kuwaiti: I know what you mean my son!?!?! :oP

     
  • At February 02, 2006 10:32 PM, Blogger Papillona ® said…

    Are they doing that here in kuwait? seriously? I mean KDD???

    Man , this is stupid.. it's a bloody newspaper.. I'm against this action. Infact I think it's completely stupid.

     
  • At February 02, 2006 11:57 PM, Blogger ***Diamon*** said…

    Totally crazy. It remind me of kids. One does something to you instead of retaliated to the source you bully your own sister or brother. Basically you attack everyone esle but the person responsible for the action.

     
  • At February 03, 2006 10:00 AM, Blogger The Stallion said…

    Papillona: This is happening in Kuwait but as for KDD they are putting articles and ads in the paper showing and informing people that they are a Arab firm made up of Kuwaiti stockholders and that KDD had nothing to do with Denmark since the early 80's.

    ***Diamon: I like the way you put it! Such a different perspective!

     
  • At February 03, 2006 6:36 PM, Blogger Raine said…

    kthekuwaiti - well said.

    Sadly Muslims have yet another opportunity to show the rest of the world that they can react in ways other than sheer hysteria, but do they take it? Do they issue a civilized statement expressing and explaining why the cartoons may be offensive to some? Do they take the high ground and simply ignore the cartoons, writing it off to freedom of speech?

    No. Boycott. Scream in mosques. Protest in front of embassies - but not peacefully with signs... no no - hurling stones. Issue fatwas. Ignore (YET AGAIN) all the serious issues that could be addressed (like repairing the Muslim/Arab image to the rest of the UNIVERSE) and take on free speech. Slam everyone anywhere in the world who dares to have an opinion that (horror of horrors) may not agree with yours.

    Aaaaaaah to live in a place where people can channel their energies into bettering their population's lives through education, culture, and free speech.

    Am I condoning what was drawn? Not at all. But do I condone the overreaction of the Muslims? No.

    There was a better way to deal with this people. But we tend to enjoy playing the victim, pointing fingers, raising our voices, and threatening violence. Diplomacy, intellectual debate, and rational reactions do not feature.

    What a waste of time, energy, and resources.

    And I share samboose's dismay at the most likely waste of food amd drink that could have sustained thousands of poverty stricken Muslims and non-Muslims all over the world.

    (I know you did not mean this post as a spark for debate, Stallion, but it seemed to have morphed into one anyway, and I had to get my 2 cents in :) )

     
  • At February 03, 2006 6:38 PM, Blogger Raine said…

    P.S. samboose - respect cannot be forced, it has to be earned..

     
  • At February 05, 2006 10:27 AM, Blogger The Stallion said…

    Raine: I respect your point of view but to kep things from blowing up, "No Comment" from my end! :oP

     
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